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Post by FBL LEAGUE MANAGER on Nov 2, 2015 19:16:19 GMT
If you vote yes, you are voting that we can allow trades after the trade deadline. If you complete a trade after the trade deadline, that player can not be used in the playoffs.
If you vote no, you are voting to keep the trade deadline as the last date in which teams can make trades.
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Post by Rafael on Nov 4, 2015 20:34:56 GMT
I'm suggesting this rule change for the following reasons: it creates more league activity (stated league goal) ; it allows teams fighting for a playoff spot to boost their roster in the final month ; it allows teams that fall out of playoff contention after our trade deadline add future assets. This is how MLB teams do it, and I think it can benefit both buyers and sellers.
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Post by Monse on Nov 9, 2015 12:22:41 GMT
I don't make enough trades to qualify for an opinion on this one.
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Post by ramos on Nov 10, 2015 14:46:00 GMT
I don't like this as it means more grunt work for the LMs. If I am making a trade post the trade deadline for a guy that I can't use in the playoffs, what is the point of making the trade?
If I am the team that is out of it, there is no lower value a player will have than when he can't be used in the playoffs, so it will lead to some major trades impacting playoff seeding with no lasting impact.
If I own a player that I can not keep and am clearly out of it, why wouldn't I take any trade offer from any owner just to gain some value for that player? If I'm in dead last and some rookie comes up on the waiver wire, what is the disincentive for me to spend my entire Waiver budget to get him, trade him to a team for a 10th round pick and materially change the playoff race?
Maybe I am taking too sinister of a view here, but I think this has the potential for disaster.
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Post by rafael on Nov 10, 2015 18:19:40 GMT
Hello, James, I'll try to give a short answer since my other posts were long. What's the point of making a post-deadline trade? Well, let's say you're in 5th place, and you're playing the 4th place team the last week of the season, and if you win that week, you make the playoffs. If a team that's out of the playoff race offers you a chance to acquire a player that you feel can help you win that final match-up, why wouldn't you want that chance? If you don't make the playoffs, the guy you acquire won't play, but neither will anyone else on your roster. If you do make the playoffs, then there's a chance that acquisition helped make that happen. The buyers win, the sellers win.
We'd have to see how this plays out, but yes, I agree that the player value may not be that high, and that's perfectly normal. I think the players that will be shopped and targeted in this scenario are guys that aren't eligible to be given keeper contracts, or guys that may not be worthy of one but still have some temporary value on any given week. (a mediocre player who has 6 games in Coors Field, maybe?) I don't expect to see 5th round picks traded, but yeah, 14th round picks? 13th round picks? We'll see.
As for your question about the last place team using all his FA money on a rookie, I actually don't see anything wrong with that. In fact, Carlos 'Team Monserrate' Monse did exactly that when he bid $157 for Luis Severino. I fully expected him to trade him to someone, and I was watching to see if I could match or beat any offer. I was shocked he didn't trade him. But we're all given the same amount of FA dollars, and we're all free to spend the way we see fit. If a last place team has enough money to blow past any other offer for a player late in the season, so be it. The last place team this year ended up having $195 left over. It would make more sense for a team to use the money and get a draft pick than have the money sit there , since it doesn't carry over.
I think this can add to the excitement, and if a playoff race is decided because of this type of player changes hands in the last week of the season, then it makes the season that much more fun to be a part of. If I'm the 4th place team that lost to you because you got that rental and beat me the final week of the season, then you can remind me that I may have gotten that player instead had I offered a 9th round pick instead of the 10th round pick. The sellers can then start using this argument to create bidding wars, and next thing you know, we'll have Monserrate leading the league in trades. Sign me up.
As a LM, I have absolutely no problem monitoring this. I can create a page on the league website, and all the players traded will be listed there. The last Sunday of the regular season, teams will be asked to drop these players from their roster. If they fail to do so, I can drop the players myself.
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Post by Lopez on Nov 12, 2015 18:58:00 GMT
I can talk from experience...that I was waiting until the last possible second to make trades this year, because I wasn't sure if I was going to get in or not...and a boost in any of the last week could have made the difference for me sitting out the playoffs or being in them. My team was in a slump, because if you look at the numbers for the playoffs in the consolidation bracket...I would have done very well. So I'm up for this wrinkle, which is similar to MLB.
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Post by Horta on Nov 18, 2015 2:39:40 GMT
My vote is no
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Post by rafael on Nov 18, 2015 7:02:38 GMT
My post-call thoughts: I think this will give teams that are eliminated from the playoff race extra incentive to be involved, it will make teams that are in a playoff race more active, and it will make the final weeks of the season more interesting.
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